The Madness of Zionism
"I am not a psychologist, but I think that everyone who lives with the contradictions of Zionism condemns himself to protracted madness. It's impossible to live like this. It's impossible to live with such a tremendous wrong. It's impossible to live with such conflicting moral criteria. When I see not only the settlements and the occupation and the suppression, but now also the insane wall that the Israelis are trying to hide behind, I have to conclude that there is something very deep here in our attitude to the indigenous people of this land that drives us out of our minds.There is something gigantic here that doesn't allow us truly to recognize the Palestinians, that doesn't allow us to make peace with them. And that something has to do with the fact that even before the return of the land and the houses and the money, the settlers' first act of expiation toward the natives of this land must be to restore to them their dignity, their memory, their justness…"
-- Veteran Israeli leftist Haim Hanegbi: Cry, the beloved two-state solution; Ha’aretz, 10 Aug 2003.
[Via: Lawrence of Cyberia]
Who Started?
On The Verge Of War
Losing What Isn't Theirs
Double Standards...
Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid (Jimmy Carter)Perhaps true. But what about the other side of the story, too? Neither side is exactly free of guilt and misconduct. But each is only interested in the demise of the other. That, is a bigger problem than Zionism, per se.
Posted by: AY at April 16, 2006 02:01 AMPerhaps true. But what about the other side of the story, too? Neither side is exactly free of guilt and misconduct. But each is only interested in the demise of the other. That, is a bigger problem than Zionism, per se.
Posted by: AY at April 16, 2006 02:01 AMNas - no it doesn't. The only outcome of this (rather useless and as we see, very blood-thirsty) line of thought is a never-ending conflict - which is precisely what we see now.
Like it or not, both sides have to compromise.
I mean, does it matter so much whether the chicken or the egg came first? We all have to be realistic about how to solve the problem. Keeping revenge in one's heart is not being realistic.
Cheers.
PS: Before I am accused of not understanding the issue personally, let me assure you that my own country (Taiwan) was 'invaded'. But as you see, we've found a compromise - where there is relative peace and ample prosperity - to the benefit of our people. At the end of the day, that's all that matters. XXXX happens - so move on.
Posted by: AY at April 16, 2006 03:54 AMI’m on the far periphery of this conflict—though not as far, perhaps, as the chap from Taiwan who posts to your wife’s website. :) From afar, it all seems so Balkanized now and understandably prone to great emotions and creeping irrationality on both sides—though of course all will maintain that they’re perfectly rational, it’s the other side that’s crazy. :) There was, for example, the conversation with U.S. Jewish friends just before the last U.S. Presidential election. These are very well-educated, not deeply religious people who are very liberal—oh, somewhere to the left of, say, Karl Marx. I was stunned when they announced they were voting for Bush because “He lets Israel do whatever it wants.” It leaped from my lips: “So,” I asked, “would you vote Hitler if he let Israel do whatever it wants?” I was denounced as an anti-Semite—my wife is Jewish— :) and we haven't heard from them since.
“And so we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past.” [F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby]
Cheers.
Posted by: Jimbo at April 16, 2006 11:22 PMAs neither an Israeli, nor a Palestinian, I can honestly agree that both sides need to put aside their resentment and move forward. From both sides I always hear, "But turn the question the other way" or "Who started this first" or "If it were the Israelis then..."
I realize all this is very complicated and I am in no position to know what is best for either country because I don't feel I have enough knowledge nor experience of either side. But as an outsider, I can see when things get nowhere and when people are posing the wrong questions.
But... You all have heard this rant from me before.
Posted by: Jenn at April 17, 2006 10:15 AM
