Women in Islam
There's a big misconception when it comes to the position of women in Islam, and how this religion portrays women and their role in society.
Foreign media is full of wrong information suggesting that the woman has no rights or dignity in Islam, and I just wanted to post something about it to try and set the record straight.
I'm a muslim by inheritance actually, no sheikh or anything, and I don't even practice my religion fully, like most people in this money-crazed world, but I’ve read the Quran and I have studied the religion, and I know what the Quran says and what it doesn't, especially when it's something as fundamental as the topic of women in Islam.
What's so astonishing is that Islam views the woman as totally the opposite of what is portrayed for the world. Islam views the woman as an equal partner to the man, and gives her so much care, respect, dignity and pride.
In fact, Islam urges and orders men to take care of women, be very gentle to them and treat them with great respect.
Yes, that's true !
Islam does NOT make the woman out to be a sexual object, in fact the opposite is true, and that’s why Islam asked women to wear the veil and to hide all the "sexy" parts of her body that would turn men on and make them look at her as a sex object, unlike the world of today that is totally sex-crazed.
Islam does NOT view the woman as inferior to man, it paints a beautiful portrait of her side-to-side with the man to make life better.
Islam does NOT allow polygamy just for the sake of it or for the man's sexual satisfaction, no, in fact there are special cases and laws to when polygamy can be allowed, and some of those cases are:
- If there is a war and the number of men is decreasing greatly, and in this case the reason why it's allowed is to protect a big number of women from prostitution because they're not able to get married.
- If the wife can’t have children or has a sickness that makes her unable to perform her marital duties, and in this case it’s allowed so that the man can marry another woman who he can have children from or who is healthy without having to divorce his old wife out of care, love and respect for her.
But what's most important is that, even if any of the allowed cases hold, the man still has to ask his wife for permission to marry another, and they have to agree on it, and to go even further Islam forces the man to treat his wives equally in every single thing and detail.
Divorce is also allowed in Islam if the couple find that they just don't get along and that it's better for them to go separate ways, of course it has to be upon agreement from both sides. Even greater is that the laws of divorce in Islam make sure that the woman gets her full rights and that she isn't dumped and thrown out with no rights or protection.
Finally, Islam gives women their rights to go out and learn, work side-by-side with man, be a leader, be a witness in a court of law …etc.
In short a woman in Islam can be whatever she wants to be, take on whatever responsibility or role a man can take and be an equal and complimentary part to man in the society.
If anyone has any questions or if they have heard or read anything that seems to contradict what I just wrote, please post it as a comment, and I'll reply.
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Posted by: MMM at October 16, 2003 09:12 AMThis post "women in islam" is simply Fantastic. A lot of people got it wrong and thanks to you, it's been explained.
Posted by: Eman at October 16, 2003 03:00 PMI must disagree.
I've never really understood why a woman should hide her beauty and sexyness. Why would she have to be ashamed of having a sexy body that turns on men. Sex is a beautiful thing, why should we stop it?
The thing you wrote about women who can't get married end up in prostitution business.. this means a woman in Islam is not "free", she is not a "leader" of anything or equal to a men. A woman in Islam NEEDS a man to survive. She needs his permission to do anything, everything.-
You can never compare an Islam woman to a woman in the "Sexual world" where she can stand tall by herself, she can make her own decisions about weather she wants a man in her life or not. Because she indeed can survive without.
Maybe some women don't want to be a baby machine!, they want a career. Even if a woman can't have children - she can adopt or live without them. Maybe she doesn't want to have children. That makes her no less worthy and does not give a man a right to take that as an excuse to have other women aside!
If you want to talk about women - you must be one to understand. But I believe women from Islam are happy because they don't know anything different from what they are in Islam. But i will always disagree when someone calls a woman in Islam equal to a man. As far as I know she has no rights without her husbands permission. And she can't survive if she doesn't marries. Well, that makes her not much choice to be whatever she wants. And if you hide her beauty - you take her wings to fly. Women are beautiful with a reason.
Hi, well let me take your comment bit by bit and try to reply/explain:
1. The woman in Islam doesn't have to be ashamed of her body or her sexiness, in fact it's the opposite. The only reason Islam asks women to cover their sexy features is so that they don't become a matter of lust, and so that the world doesn't become as sex crazed as it has become today where the only thing anyone thinks about is sex.
2. I don't get it, women aren't considered free unless they have the right to be prositutes ?
Give me a break...
3. Women in Islam can choose what man to marry if any, she can choose to live alone, she can choose to work, she can choose to do whatever she wants.
It's not true that women in Islam need a man to survive and that they have to take permission for everything.
4. Women are beautiful with a reason, of course, but is that reason to show it off to all the men of the earth ? is the reason to cause lust ? is the reason to make people think about sex just by seeing her ?
Beauty is such a higher and more noble thing i think.
One thing i would like to add is: don't judge Islam by what you see in one country or another today. Not all so-called Islamic countries or muslims are doing what Islam really tells them to do.
My post was about the real Islam, and what it tells us, and why it tells us that.
"Sex is a beautiful thing, why should we stop it?"
Equality was never meant to be having sex and turning each other on, there is a brain and a body and a soul, not just a body.And just for the record,Muslim Women since ages ago were respected as an equal member to man in society, they were poets,doctors,they fought in war side by side with men, they were consultants in many things. Islam urges men to respect women no matter what her position to the man is (mother, daughter, wife...etc). Islam encourages women to be an effective character, she should be educated, she should take care of her looks. She should either be employed, or be an employer, or raise a family, but not lowering her position in community by being looked at as a sex-object for men to come and taste the dish!!!no one blames you if you got wrong impressions, but don't be against something unless you make research on your own. A woman should be taken as an equal beautiful mind plus the beauty of her looks.
"A woman in Islam NEEDS a man to survive"
Actually and the way I see it, seems that it's all about SEX. And as far as I know for a woman to be sexy, she has to turn on MEN,i.e. she's NOT FREE, as she's dependant of what MEN think of her and her fellow girls… And then Muslim women are the ones who NEED men!
"Maybe some women don't want to be a baby machine!, they want a career".
When MMM said that a man has the right to divorce his wife if she doesn’t have kids is just because some men really wish to have babies, just like your father had you, and so they either surrender to the fact that their wife cant have children, or ask for divorce. Exactly like when the woman wishes to have a baby and her husband can't have children so she has the right to either stay with him or ask for divorce. The man and the woman are here equal and free.And by the way, a woman who cant have children is never looked at as less worthy in Islam as you stated…
"And she can't survive if she doesn't marries"
So that means all unmarried Muslim women are dead!!! Come on, not all muslim women are married, that doesn't make them less than any other married woman at all. But in Islam (like it was the case in other religions long long time ago) having a sexual relationship with the opposite sex without being married means SIN,so marriage is encouraged in Islam for raising healthy families and to avoid sin.
"And if you hide her beauty - you take her wings to fly".
May I ask a question? When having a discussion with a man, what would you prefer, having him staring at your legs and fantasizing having you in his room, or –as a free woman- you'd prefer having him listening to your words with respect to your opinion and admiration to your free thinking? If you prefer being only a turn on, then congratulations: you're a slave to sex … and since sex needs a man to be fulfilled then that makes you a slave for men as well.
A Muslim woman is equal to men in all rights. She chooses her husband, she chooses to get married or not, she chooses her lifestyle and is with all that never looked at a tool for sexual lust. She's never ashamed of her beauty, it's exactly the opposite, as she knows that with her beauty she can turn on 1000 of men just by passing by them, so she covers that precious body and reveals it only for the one who will protect it as well and who will appreciate it. Just like when you have a diamond ring, would you go on showing it to everyone even those poor friends who can't afford it, or those thieves in the streets? Would you wear it when you go swimming to destroy it or lose it? No you'll protect it and will put it on only in special occasions where you're sure it will be admired and you'll be flattered without the fear of harming or losing it. A Muslim woman knows that her body and her sexuality is a precious treasure, and she's proud of that.
Why a man doesn't cover himself? Are men ugly? :-)
Well. I still don't agree on some issues and I don't see any point in taking them further. You said yourself - things are not exactly as they should be. And I was not taking about what should be - I was taking about things as they really are.
I am happy to be able to show who I am. And what I look like is a big part of myself. My clothes show my nature and style, my face shows my feelings and character... Anyways.
I don't really know how things are in Islam, because I've never been there... And I never understood the culture. And I think I never will.
Why a man doesn't cover himself? Are men ugly? :-)
Well. I still don't agree on some issues and I don't see any point in taking them further. You said yourself - things are not exactly as they should be. And I was not taking about what should be - I was taking about things as they really are.
I am happy to be able to show who I am. And what I look like is a big part of myself. My clothes show my nature and style, my face shows my feelings and character... Anyways.
I don't really know how things are in Islam, because I've never been there... And I never understood the culture. And I think I never will.
What you don't know is that a man should also cover his sexy parts. In Islam a man shouldn't wear tight and shiny things, he shouldn't also wear Gold and Silk that would make him look like a woman in a way. Manhood should be expressed in a clean respective way, and that's all because Islam doesn't want the community to focus on sex as the main concern. So just like the woman shouldn't reveal her sexiness a man shouldn't as well, with one difference, a woman's body has sexiness in all its parts where a man has it in some parts of his body. As for things not being exactly what they should be, this isn't only in Islam but in other religions too, nowadays generations are far from the real religions, but that doesn't mean that a lot of people do stick to their religions in the right way.
"My clothes show my nature and style, my face shows my feelings and character"
Just wanted to say that what you said is true, clothes with their style and color they are what give an impression about who you are, and when they're too tight or revealing then they give an impression that you're sexy, and this is what Islam doesn't want, it doesn't want women to be pointed out as "hot". So you can still give the impression that you're serious, funny, classic,cool, modern...etc, but not sexy, which i think - as a woman- is realy great. As for the face, Islam didn't ask you to cover it, some Muslim women do, but it's not something that Islam stated as a must. So you can have your face revealed while wearing respectful yet elegant and cozy clothes.
Anyway, i guess this whole discussion and the whole post wasn't to be gainst anyone, MMM posted this to clear the wrong picture a lot of people -like you- have about Islam and Women's position in it. So even if you don't understand the culture and the religion, all we hope for is that you wont have the wrong picture about them anymore.
please tell me why is the women in islam can't be a judge?
Posted by: yasser soliman at December 6, 2003 06:59 AMWell, opposite to what is thought, a woman in islam can be a judge, and many islamic scholars confirm that.
There never was anything in the Quran or by the prophet Mohamed that forbid women from becoming judges.
And in fact, here in Tunisia, we do have women judges.
I think some other islamic countries don't allow women to become judges, although islam never forbid her to be, and maybe their reasons are based more on what they think are the nature and physiology of women and how they make her unfit for judging.
But, as you can see, those are their own interpretations and rules and not those of islam.
hi all
nobody said that muslim woemen are preventing themselves of living when they cover their face or ever their body.
a muslim woman can do whatever she wants with her spouse. as well as, she can wear beatiful clothes but not infront of men....
when a woman wear a sexy clothes while she has a sexy body, she might turn on one man....
but the question is ...... does she trust that man. i mean, that man might rap her and get her pregnant and leave her alone. after that the victim will be the baby. so why should we just allow everyone to look at us as a sweet food. they eat it and after they done with it they throgh it away. why don't we cover ourselves by HIJAB and then men will go after us wanted to know who's that woman, is she beatiful or not. then, men will go to our families and ask for getting married of us.......................
at least he will trust you one day ....
anyway, i think Islam is completly fair with our rights....
I thank God that I am a Muslim
Best Regards,
nosho
I would like to learn more about spouse private when they getting marry.
Posted by: Sajida Perveen at May 7, 2004 11:59 AMI didn't really understand your first question, could you please explain more.
As for your second question: Women and Men in Islam are both not allowed to wear revealing clothes.
Women have to wear clothes that cover their bodies and hair.
What we see in some countries where women cover their faces and hands is too much and Islam never asked for that.
As for men, they have to cover their bodies too and wear respectable clothing.
Posted by: MMM at May 7, 2004 02:17 PMCovering the face isnt a must but it is GOOD and follows how the wives of the prophet were dressed as. Its mustahab(recommended and loved by Allah)
Posted by: c0de at May 29, 2004 12:50 AMwoooooooow..... well said! being a hijaabi myself, but one who had blundered somewhere, ive realized that it is purely for protection. When i started wearing one two years back i suddenly felt a change. I stopped being all that conscious abotu my looks. I now started realizing and understanding who i was. I actually felt free because fewer people, especially men, stared. Its so simple. i was left alone! besides that i know many males respect me for the fact that i do hijaab. The type of guys who sleep with a diff girl every other night, THEY come to me and tell me that they respect me. ANd they do. ENter a public bus with skimpy clothes you can see the smirk on the perverts' faces, and then see their look when a lady in a hijaab comes in, they literally bow their heads in respect.
People started seeing me for what i AM inside, my intellect, my likes and dislikes. I have made a stronger place in society, an identity after wearing hijaab, than what i had before. People i know now like me for what i really am inside, rather than just how i dress, look and carry myself.
Assalamu alikum to all,
Even though i was born muslim and i'm supposed to know all of this, but I did not. I'm really glad that I now learned more and more about the position of women in my religion, Islam. It's something that fills you with pride.
Thank you
Posted by: saeed at August 9, 2004 10:21 PMA’sslema!
I’ve just stumbled upon this blog, and I’m very happy to be reading this dialog!
I am an American woman who spent the past year (2004-05) teaching English in Sousse (Tunisia). I am going to be leading discussions of Islam and my experiences in Tunisia at my “church” (it is not Christian, but Unitarian Universalist), and I love to have information directly from people who have personal experience.
You have all explained very clearly and beautifully your perspectives on women in Islam. Now I want to explain to you WHY so many Americans (and other westerners) have difficulty understanding some aspects of what you say. PLEASE note that I am not saying one position is “right” and one is “wrong”! I just want to explain how we see things.
(1) “… he shouldn't also wear Gold and Silk that would make him look like a woman in a way.”
I think many non-Muslims would say two things about this: First, what makes a man “look like a woman” is different all over the world, so this judgment shouldn’t be used on people who are not from your country – they may be dressing in a very masculine way according to their own culture!
Second, in many cultures it is not necessarily “bad” that men have female characteristics. Some cultures believe that women have strengths that men do not have, so a man who shows them is stronger than a man who doesn’t. (The same can also be true of women who show both feminine and masculine characteristics.)
(2) “So just like the woman shouldn't reveal her sexiness a man shouldn't as well, with one difference, a woman's body has sexiness in all its parts where a man has it in some parts of his body.”
Which parts of a man’s body are not sexy? Who decided that? To me, the sexiest parts of a man are his hands and his eyes!
Sexiness is not only about tight clothes and bare arms or legs. I agree that in America and some other countries, the “sexy” ways of dressing and acting – especially in music clips – has gone too far, and I’m sorry it is affecting the cultures of other countries. However…. (see next item…)
(3) “I mean, that man might rape her and get her pregnant and leave her alone. After that the victim will be the baby. So why should we just allow everyone to look at us as a sweet food.”
To most Westerners, I think we would say that this is problem has to do with MEN and not with WOMEN. Most of us believe the following:
Adult men are not children who have no control over their bodies.
Adult men know that rape is WRONG.
Adult men know that women are not “sweet food” – we are human beings!
Adult men take responsibility for their actions.
Adult men have sex with women they *love*, not with women they will leave afterward (do not believe everything you see on TV or in the movies)!
In the view of most American and European women, men who do not do these things are not men, they are children.
(4) “I don't get it, women aren't considered free unless they have the right to be prostitutes? Give me a break... …. Women in Islam can choose what man to marry if any, she can choose to live alone, she can choose to work, she can choose to do whatever she wants. It's not true that women in Islam need a man to survive and that they have to take permission for everything.”
With all respect, while this may be true in the Holy Qur’an, it is NOT true in Tunisian society (and probably not in most other Muslim societies). I had MANY female students who were forced to break up with boyfriends who their families disapproved of, or to marry men who they didn’t know or love. I also had many female students and friends who felt that their lives would be worthless without a husband; they also felt sorry for me that I was living alone without a husband. And it is an acknowledged fact that Tunisian girls and women are looked down upon if they are out late at night having fun without brothers or other male friends – even if they are only talking to other girls.
Are these things also true of men?
If not, this is why many American/European women feel that Muslim women are not free…
Personally, I believe restrictive attitudes toward women are not specifically Muslim, but rather are ones that we could call “traditional”. They are attitudes toward women that were true in America and in Europe in years past, and are still true in many cultures all over the world.
REMEMBER, I am not saying that one way of believing is right or wrong – I just want to try to clarify why Westerners and Muslims often have differences in our understanding of the status of women in Islam. (And by the way, I often wish I could wear a hijab, and not worry about having people judge me by my looks!)
Bislemma,
Maia
USA
Asalamualaikum,
may Allaah guide you, you've read the Quran fully and know whats in it and what isnt but you still dont adhere to Islam properly? subhan Allaah ..
secondly, a man doesnt have to ask his first wife for permission in order to marry another wife. Allah subhanahu wa-ta’ala who is al-Hakim (All Wise) al-Khabir (All Experienced) and who is more knowledgeable about the human beings He created than they themselves are about themselves, has ordained that a man is allowed to marry whom he wills among women as long as he does not bond in marriage under his care and responsibility more than four women. And this is conditioned upon him dealing justly among them the known justice specified by shari’a which includes overnight stays and spending. If he does not have the ability and capacity to deal with such justice, then he should suffice with one, as Allah indicates in Surat al-Nisaa’ in ayah 3, which has a meaning that can be translated as:
“… marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if you fear that you will not be able to deal justly (with them) then only one…” (4:3)
And Allah’s shar’aa (Islamic law) is all just and wise, and He ordains what He wills and does what He want and it is incumbent upon as human beings to believe and have faith and submit and obey and abide by the shari’a, otherwise then we are not Muslims nor mu’mineen (believers). As Allah also said in Surat al-Nisaa’ ayah 65 a verse whose meaning can be translated as:
“But no, by your Lord, they can have no (real) faith until they make you judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against your decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction” (3:65)
and in Surat al-Ahzaab, ayah 36, a meaning that can be translated as:
“It is not fitting for a mu’min (believing man) or mu’mina (believing woman) when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision: if anyone disobeys Allah and His Apostle he is indeed strayed on a manifestly wrong path.” (33:36)
Furthermore, no evidence appears neither in the Qur’an nor sunnah requiring the permission of the first wife if her husband wishes to marry another wife, and therefore he is not required to ask her permission. However, he needs to be judicious in taking this decision and to weigh it carefully with respect to benefits and drawbacks and to look with the eye of wisdom at all of the considerations pertaining to the matter, and he should strive all he can to conciliate, reassure, and satisfy his first wife, in order to ease and mitigate the effect of the matter upon her. you can read more on that here: http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=61&dgn=4
thirdly, free mixing is haram. so women working side by side with men isnt allowed either. you can read the proof here: http://63.175.194.25/index.php?QR=1200&ln=eng
Posted by: amatullah at October 28, 2005 04:30 PMI am 28 year old and I am separated from my husband about 2 1/2 years ago when I was 25years old due to abusive relation ship.I just want to know am I divorced or I have to go for it?
I dont get any child support,I didnt get married in U.S I got married in pakistan and,I have no clue how to finish this relationship .
I am scared to even face him because he is kinda sick he might Kill me if I come before him.
I also heard that he got married and has a baby girl.
I have no problem with that. and yea I also have another Question that Is falling in love with an Indian (hindu) guy a sin?
Please reply to me as soon as possible.
Thanks :)
Posted by: Sana at June 3, 2006 03:20 AMIts a sin, because he is a non-muslim. If you want a relationship, meaning marriage, then he must convert to Islam. The same rule applies to men, if they want to marry non Muslim women, they must do so if there wives to be accept Islam. The reason for this is that if you were to have children, both husband and wife have the same values, and children grow up in a stable envirnoment. It is a great burden when you are involved in a marriage where one person is Muslim, and the other is not, as this would mean having a different value system within the same household, and one should not compromise on Islamic teachings, if one is a true Muslim. My personal opinion is that there are enough good Muslim men out there, just be patient, prey to ALLAH, and your patience will be rewarded.
Posted by: Munir at June 5, 2006 11:42 PMI still did not get the answer of my q .... I asked when a husband and wife are not living with eachother more than 2 years does it mean they r divorced ,or they have to get divorce ,As far as I know being away from eachother more than 6 month is like getting divorce but I want to know more abt it .Please answer this question.
And yea thanks for answering my q abt being in love with a hindu guy.I didnt know it but now that I know it is a sin I will just do as Islam told us to do.Because I dont want to go against Allah:)
Thanks .
Posted by: Sana at June 6, 2006 04:56 AMDear Sana,
If loving a hindu was a Sin why did Allah give you that feeling of love for a hindu guy?
I guess every thing is fair in love .
If Allah has chosen that hindu as ur lover what can you do about it ,still if you dont accept him it means you are going against God "Allah" .As we all know Love is God So how can you say LOVE is a Sin ?
Ask this question from people here lts see what is their opinion about this .
Take care
bye
To comment on what Wali has said, it is not wrong to love this man, but he has to accept Islam, the same applies to men who want to marry non muslims, there partners must also covert to ISLAM, for reasons I HAVE ALREADY STATED. If you have any undertsanding of the Quran, it is clear as day that Muslims can only marry Non-Muslims, if they are ready to convert to the true faith of Islam, and be guided by its values. Sana, you may be away from your husband for a number of years, and it may seem like a divorce, but legally I think your situation is more akin to a separation than a divorce. I am not sure how laws work in your country, but it may still mean you are still legally bindid to this man. My advice is to get a divorce through a third party, which means you do not have to see this man, but can still get a divorce. One last thing do not be misguided by people like Wali, who have little understanding of Islam, and try to misguide others. If you can get this man to covert to Islam, you will have a much happier marriage based on shared values, such is the Beauty of our religion it teaches us everything, if we only listen to ALLAH, HE IS OUR CREATOR, AND TO ALLAH will we all return. I hope this has answered your question.
Posted by: munir at June 6, 2006 02:52 PMThanks I guess I really was followoing a wrong path thanks to u that u have shown me and made my decision stronger to stay away from this guy and do as Allah wants me to do as a Muslim woman :)
Sana
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one question I have which no one asked till now (when a man decide to marry other woman without his wif's permision doenst he think to him self for a minute that what would hapen to him if his wife marry another guy without his permision atleast in this point we must think that even woman is a creature of God and she also has feelings,how the hell a man can go marry another woman when his wife is not happy with his decision I am sorry but if even Allah decide it it is completely bull shit I have ever heard from you . My dad had thought me that men cud marry more than one woman only longggggggggg back when lots of men have died fighting for Islam and at that time very less ppl accepted Islam and when many men had died and their wives were left behind and they cudnt marry non muslim man their for the other muslim woman asked their husband to marry those woman who's man had died in jahad .as we all know man or woman they both need sex this is natural I my self am a Student In MEDICAL SCIENCE and I have learned that a woman need more sex than a man NOw will u tell me how come GOd give the right to a man who has 1% desire of sexuality and a woman has 99% ?
hahaha I really cant blieve how ppl r giving bad names to Islam . they changed such beautifull religion to such a evil thing that ppl cant even dare to even learn abt Islam .
as u said a man doesnt need his wif's permission to marry another woman?
u must also know that God told men that if u cant keep ur wife happy leave her free let her find a man who she thinks she deserves .
I dont think men In Islam ever told their wives abt this .
The first thing I really am upset abt is that in Islam men take their wife as his shoes anytime hewants he use her else she has to remain as a statue .
I request u that dont make Islam such a big tamasha in ppl's eyes.
Today we just have to learn how to behave with human being after all we all born from one man adn woman .
then who made all these religion of Islam /Chris/ hindu and all .after all we r brothers and sisters.
think over it if allah really wanted only muslim on the earth then he him self wud have made every one born muslim .
he doesnt need u or me or other ppl to fight for him.after all life is sooo short .
Today if a muslim pray to God his prayer gets accepted,if a chris pray to god his prayer gets accepted and he tells all GOd heard my prayer why?
God can reject his prayer becoz he didnt pray to Allah he prayed to other God ?
cant he?atleast Allah is the one who accpets our prayer if God doesnt like other religions then Islam then why is he accepting other religion's prayer?
what I lean from my experience is that , even If i had born in a chris Family I wudn't blieve in Islam same with those ppl they born in chris
family, hindu family .buddis family and they following the same religion has their parents told them
Even u who talks abt islam uncountable If u were born in a chris Falmily u wudnt give damn shit abt Islam .
becoz u wanted to follow ur parents ur culture ur religion .
What I am saying is lets stop this religion thing
lets know the reality of this world and feel the power of God ."Allah"
all these things I heard from Quran I blieve 80% of it is not correct .because all men in islam turned it upside down for their own Good.
woman can not work with men? what if her husband dies? who is going to suport her? hahaha muslim man want their wife to be a prostitute rather than a worker .Is that what Islam said ?atleast if a woman work out side and she has nothigbad in her heart I blieve nothign is bad in that nothing at all.A single mom works having thoughts that she goes home and sees her kids and make some good food for her kids by doing a job not by selling her body .
or she stay at home as a house wife when husband dies then she go to sell her body becoz todyas men spend money only on women who satisfy men with her nudity .Give me a break and stop brain washing women kind of Islam .GOd lives in our heart , even if u dont sa y it by ur mouth just think abt it abt GOd that is equal to 5 times prayer I bet many ppl pray to God but not from their heart Come one ppl fooling God is like fooling ur self .hahaha be honest who is imp God "Allah" when we cant hide it from Allah why will we care abt ppl.
muslim men want to have their whole desire having sex with more than one woman and a woman has to live with a man who is %%%%%% many women on the bed. that is bull shit . If a man wants that then let his wife to be with another man tooo let her taste the way he taste his lust and desires .
I am a muslim I know what ever Muslim men say is not true.I know they can do anything to show their power over women even they can change Alla's word what a Shame .
Hope u understand What I mean .
Bye
Posted by: nadia at June 7, 2006 05:46 AMNadia, a man cannot under Islam marry another woman without his wife's consent, and any man who does is wrong to do and is not following true Islam. You seem to have a chip on shoulder regarding Islamic values, and can at least have the decency to write ALLAH'S name with a capital letter. Generally I think you have a very poor understanding of Islam, try actually reading the Quaran, rather than going on here say. Women under Islam are allowed to work, our Prophets wife happened to be a business woman, and I see many muslim business women in my country, who are working, some are self employed. Islam also teaches that men and women should be educated, but education in Muslims countries is generally very poor, this is not the fault of Islam, but Muslim societies not follwoing Islam. Yes there are other religions in this world, Judaism which had similar values to Islam, but Judaism changed and stopped follwoing ALLAH'S message, then came Christianity, which after a while began to de-rail. Then came the final message from ALLAHA, which was Islam, the complete religion, a complete way of life, the only religion in the world that is so complete, hence that is why you have other religions. Our existence in this world is a test, a test to see if we can tolerate others, get along with them. It is not about as wrongly suggetsed that ALLAH would make all thge world Muslim..this is not what it is about. You could argue that ALLAH could make mankind faultless, that there would be no wars, killing, etc, but like I said, this is a test for makind, do we become steadfast and stay true to our faith or do we become misguided. ALLAH has given us a conscious, we must decide to make the right decisions and we will be judged on that. Do not try to write false things about Islam, and Muslim men, the world is too diverse to write about stereo-types. Also you may want to stop writing false notions about Islam, thinking about ALLAH is not the same as praying five times, not sure where you got that from, but its just PLAIN WRONG!!! Its like saying watching the HAJJ on television is the same as actually physically going to HAJJ. Your understanding of Islam seems very weak, you seem to like making things up as you go along....do not misguide others. REMEMBER one thing, your existence her is only temporary, you will die and then you will be judged for your actions on this planet.....you may want to think some things over and reassess some of your false notions about Islam.
Posted by: munir at June 7, 2006 10:40 AMNadia, a man cannot under Islam marry another woman without his wife's consent, and any man who does is wrong to do and is not following true Islam. You seem to have a chip on shoulder regarding Islamic values, and can at least have the decency to write ALLAH'S name with a capital letter. Generally I think you have a very poor understanding of Islam, try actually reading the Quaran, rather than going on here say. Women under Islam are allowed to work, our Prophets wife happened to be a business woman, and I see many muslim business women in my country, who are working, some are self employed. Islam also teaches that men and women should be educated, but education in Muslims countries is generally very poor, this is not the fault of Islam, but Muslim societies not follwoing Islam. Yes there are other religions in this world, Judaism which had similar values to Islam, but Judaism changed and stopped follwoing ALLAH'S message, then came Christianity, which after a while began to de-rail. Then came the final message from ALLAHA, which was Islam, the complete religion, a complete way of life, the only religion in the world that is so complete, hence that is why you have other religions. Our existence in this world is a test, a test to see if we can tolerate others, get along with them. It is not about as wrongly suggetsed that ALLAH would make all thge world Muslim..this is not what it is about. You could argue that ALLAH could make mankind faultless, that there would be no wars, killing, etc, but like I said, this is a test for makind, do we become steadfast and stay true to our faith or do we become misguided. ALLAH has given us a conscious, we must decide to make the right decisions and we will be judged on that. Do not try to write false things about Islam, and Muslim men, the world is too diverse to write about stereo-types. Also you may want to stop writing false notions about Islam, thinking about ALLAH is not the same as praying five times, not sure where you got that from, but its just PLAIN WRONG!!! Its like saying watching the HAJJ on television is the same as actually physically going to HAJJ. Your understanding of Islam seems very weak, you seem to like making things up as you go along....do not misguide others. REMEMBER one thing, your existence her is only temporary, you will die and then you will be judged for your actions on this planet.....you may want to think some things over and reassess some of your false notions about Islam.
Posted by: munir at June 7, 2006 10:40 AMDear Nadia,
I agree that in todays world we all changed the alot things about our religion.For example: Osama is soo proud that he followed Islam by killing thousands of people,he thinks he has send those men to heaven by telling them to take that action he him self a old man hide him self to live,and he brained wash other young guys who were under 30 years of age to go kill them self by the name of god.
What do our brother thinks about him.Is he really following true Islam.I dont think so
He actually made all muslim to take place of wild animal in people's eyes.And it is not their fault it I had seen people doing same thing as Osama from other culture I would blieve that the whole people from that religion can be so harmfull.
I really am a sahamed some times to open my mouth and tell people that I am a muslim,because the look they give me is awful.
why muslim cant do something good to people,why cant they do somehting good for this world which god gifted us for living.
sometimes when I see the beauti of earth sky moon stars I keep asking my self why people dont think about reaching all the beautifull things god gave us why they like to reach the ugliest things ,killing,lying,stealing,hurting eachother,
If the only thing is bothering we all is religion why just dont we leave it to god.do we have more power then god,do we think we r god to chnge people's mind to come to convert islam?
When god him self has the bigest and strongest power why will he leave that big job for us ?he him self can convert all people to Islam in less than a second.
why is he waiting and what is he waiting for.I agree Nadia that todays muslim men still follows Islam in the wrong way. by beating their wife at day time and ask her to be on bed at night.
For god sake which woman can have that feeling of getting together with that man after he hurt her so badly.
when ever I talk about muslim girls with my college friends they say are you going to marry a girl to be your wife or your servent.
Why is that so,because of us we made this happen in all muslim country a guy tells his wife behave good respect me or else I am going to divorce you and marry another girl. the wife cant ask him back ,DO you behave good by telling me you are going to divorce me why cant you forgive my mistake ,why cant you give me another chance .
No she cant because she been thought and she agrees what ever a husband says is correct and she must follow it.
I want to marry a muslim girl but I will never ever let this thoughts cross my mind that I am a man I must have more values than my wife .
From my point of view a woman has more value and more right than a man,Just think how she carrys a baby for 9 months in her whomb and still takes care of her husband not because she is scared because she love him ,
but today all woman stays with their husband just because they brain washed them selves that No matter what this guy is my first and last life partner,which is totally wrong .
Nadia to know the true ISlam you can not find one single person who follows Islam the way it should they changed it some what.
I also know this that no one is unfaulty in this world we just pray to god to forgive our mistakes
I know he is kind and he will forgive us.just having a feeling that you have done wrong you must not folow that path again is the right think to do.
Good day you all
Nasim
I just feel that if a man can marry three women a woman should be able to marry three men. I also dont think that women should have to cover up because they have sexy parts, it is a man who should blind himself if he cannot control his urges when he sees the beauty of a woman. A true muslim would be a good human, clean and dignified, he/she would net get messed up on the subject of sex and sexism. We live together on this planet under our only one God.
Posted by: deema at September 22, 2006 08:26 PMDeema, your questions have already been answered, please read above. A true Muslim is one who submits to the will of ALLAH, which is writtren in the QURAN. It is better not to make things up, and pick and choose which values you prefer.
Posted by: Munir at September 25, 2006 03:46 PManswer to Deema
if a woman have sex with three men...and if she becomes pregnant, she cannot tell from which man is she pregnant...for a certain time(as ADN Test exist nowadays but it is not cheap). this will gives her stress for not knowing whose man's child is she baring.
if a man marry three women. The latter can tell who is the father of the child.
the answer is simple as you can see.
Posted by: blackmachina at October 23, 2006 09:15 PMcan a muslim women be a leader? eso if men and nations?
would u want your wife to work with som1 like me....?
e-mail he work details ill send my c.v
I have a question. Can Muslim women date a non-Muslim as long as he turns Muslim before they marry?
Posted by: Amira at June 5, 2007 02:43 AMI have a question. Can Muslim women date a non-Muslim as long as he turns Muslim before they marry?
Posted by: Amira at June 5, 2007 02:43 AMSalam Alikom,
I would like to think MMM for this interesting post on women in Islam and also other brothers and sisters who has defended islam teaching and discussed the correct and wrong idea(specially Iman and Munir)
for the last question, I tried to find a the correct answer on some trusted islamic web sites, because in such subjects and generally in all islamic questions, we must ask the question to the right person, so my reference is this website www.islamqa.com (available in all language) persons answering questions are well known for their knowledge and are very trusted among islamic world, so here you can get an answer for ur question, and also for others
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=83736&ln=eng
My friend Karima her husband married again without her permission.He dont live with the second wife but still live with Karima. Its excaly Karimas own house,but now he live with her and he wants her to throw him out so he can have rights to sell her house. What can she do?
Posted by: Kashifah at June 15, 2007 11:07 AMMy friend Karima her husband married again without her permission.He dont live with the second wife but still live with Karima. Its excaly Karimas own house,but now he live with her and he wants her to throw him out so he can have rights to sell her house. What can she do?
Posted by: Kashifah at June 15, 2007 11:08 AMMy friend Karima her husband married again without her permission.He dont live with the second wife but still live with Karima. Its excaly Karimas own house,but now he live with her and he wants her to throw him out so he can have rights to sell her house. What can she do?
Posted by: Kashifah at June 15, 2007 11:09 AMI disagree with the thing about polygamy
there is nothing in the qur'an that ssays if a woman cannot hav children etc then a man can hav another wife
Thats is just an insult to women all over
Its been just a few days when i came to this site and i was inspired by how ppl shared their views n ppl commented on them! When i decided to read "women in islam" i knew there wud be quite contradictions between ppl erading the article. The first article telling us abt the position of islam....i was quite inspired by the writer...n i totally agree wid him!!! but i was literally shocked by MMMs respose to it
"Why shud women be ashamed of their sexyness?"
Lemme tell u one thing....it is not a matter of shame whether they r sexy or not...but wht matters is that wht their religion tells them to do n wht path they r following. In islam men n women r equal.Islam promites equal rights, equality...gud, gr8 but the qs that arises is that for this ??? Islam has given women freedom but for this ??? As soon as women acknowledged their freedom n rights ther thinking changed, their school of thought changed ! FOR THIS ?!?!?! ppl have been pressurizing women, seeing them as sex symbols but it is their own fault that teh stage has reached this ! I am a women....i dunt cover myself, i wear jeans! i know im not a proper islamic women but i cover my body parts...i know how to act in a party in a social gathering...unlike sum women who disclose themselves b/w men!!!
Moreover it is also the men's fault who have been encouraging women to di all this...its shamefull !!!
Now i would lyk to conclude wid teh fact that remember one day u will b help accountable in court set by Allah!!!
Again,
the burden is put upon the woman. She must be asked, told, ordered, to cover and conceal for the fear of rape and criticism of MAN. Woman is not equal. She isn't granted the freedom as man.It is MAN, thru his interpretation and need to control women, who invents these rules, to protect their property, "Chattle". Man's struggle with the portrayl of woman as sex objects should be something they deal with, between he and Our Creator, and not to blame women for how they dress. It's like those people suing McDonald's for selling artery-clogging foods for making them obese. It's there, but ya don't have to eat there. Fight the temptation and eat healthy.(Just an example) Are Men not as beautiful and "Sexy"? Women share the same desires as men, it just goes unspoken or is unacceptable behaviour, from man's point of view. Now the subject of man physically overpowering women comes up, which cannot be argued, but, regardless of covering up, a woman has the same chances of getting raped or molested, if she were to wear a bikini, sweat suite, t-shirt and a pair of jeans,or a potato sack. The Creator with many names gave WOMAN power over man, which is why man must find anyway to confine them.
heyy, I was just wondering.. well actually im having this huge problem, in islam where does it say that a husband and his wife should live with the guys parents.. becasue i dont want that at all i want my own house just like everyone else. in islam does it not say the wife has full say in whether or not she wants her own house. i am from pakistan, i think it may just be a pakistani mantality. but if there is a verse in the quran that says so can u give it to me.
-thanks
Mashallah brother you had a good point talking about women in islam.
Many people are confused about that.
Nowdays muslim people believe that islam doesn't women well.
jazakallah.
hi ths is amina,akram. ia m muslim
i rally very hapy t see u thnking.
but i am vry tans about women thy are doing very bad works.
Assalamucalykum
Dear brother
i need to know about separation for wife and husband. how Islam look that issues'
To those who think that Arab women are of the same "value" as men; this is what I have to say - man and women have never been equal - FACT. Not in the Arab World, but the entire world. But that gap differs from one country to another, but never is there no gap at all.
Posted by: Lou Lou at April 29, 2008 05:42 PMI first want to thankyou for posting what you did I read something a none muslim posted and I was shock to see that he said that muslim women where in that condition I was hurt I love islam and I believe that in this religon women are respected and thou not completely equal, women are put in a place where they suppose to be. I don't want to be equal with my husband I want to have my place and he have his, that is what makes us work. I do what Allah has created me to do and he do what he was created for and our home is govern my Allah and only Allah. I believe that the reward in heven for me is just and beautiful. Alll praise be to Allah. As Salamu Alikum
Posted by: laquiesha at May 1, 2008 11:51 PMhow about if the lady is divorced and has a child, can she remarry and is it ok for an unmarried man to marry her
Posted by: ismaah at May 13, 2008 07:25 PM
